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Larry K Admin Group

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This is hard for me to write, so
I probably should apologize in advance for all the times I’m going to put my
foot in it and inadvertently say the wrong thing. Please give me the benefit of the doubt at such times and believe
that I want to strengthen and encourage, not belittle or ridicule.
I’m starting this topic
particularly for Forum members who are struggling with health issues, and this
summer I’m writing from a new vantage point, that of a fellow-struggler. Most of the old heads know that I’m retired
military: I was a paratrooper, I think of myself as a jock, go-anywhere-do-anything,
tougher than nails, etc. In the past
when I’ve encouraged those who are fighting to get into shape, I’ve always been
sincere, but I’ve always written in the self-satisfied tone of “one who has
arrived.”
That’s not true this summer. I’ve arrived, but I’ve left again; I’m not
sitting on the goal line with a smile anymore.
I’ve got some digestive problems
that can only be solved surgically.
With no surgical intervention the pain and the intestinal blockages
would make life not worth living. I’ve
had one operation so far and am looking forward to the follow-on in a month or
so. Right now, if it weren’t for
prescription pain relievers and a very restrictive diet, I wouldn’t be able to
walk to the computer to write, much less get the trikes out on the road for a
ride.
-- But I am riding. This is because of my own determination
(and, in John Lennon’s words, “a little help from my friends”), but also
because a recumbent trike makes physical exercise possible for me where an
upright bicycle would do more damage than even a surgeon could fix. This is one of my reasons for starting a
separate topic on health and trikes: for the vast majority of those who wonder
if a trike can help them, the answer is yes – if properly used. Maybe I can give you some ideas on how to properly
use your trike.
I am riding, but I am struggling,
and so is Nina, my wife. Even with her
MS, she tries to encourage me, and because of that, I’d rather cut off an arm
than not be at her side when she needs a good word from me in return. Maybe our shared experiences can help a few
of you to begin doing good things for yourselves this summer, or to continue
doing them when it gets hard to go on.
Basically, this summer I’m not a
jock any more: that’s been beaten out of me good ‘n’ proper, by my failing
innards. And the paratrooper wings are
in the jewel box: all the “Oooo-rah’s” they brought aren’t doing me a lick of
good this year. Right now most days I’m
back to being in fourth grade gym class, feeling like an idiot because we’re
supposed to be playing basketball and I don’t understand the rules of the game. I don’t have the skills to put one in from
across the floor and the gym teacher is calling me weak and useless. Worse, I always believe him when he tries to
“motivate” me that way. It’s that old,
terrible feeling of “what am I doing here?
I don’t belong in the same league with these guys.” That’s where I started, and that’s who came
back to being this summer.
What I have that I can share is
my memories of having gotten from that beginning point to where I was last year
at this time: someone who took himself from being a physical fitness failure to
the pinnacle of physical fitness success (considering age, of course) over the
space of a lifetime just on his own guts and will to succeed.
So for those Forum members who:
-- wonder if a trike could be the
answer, and if so, what kind, how much, what do I do to make it work for me,
etc?
-- know what a trike can do, and
already have one, but who have parked it for a little while because of various
reasons . . . -- apart from knowing what a trike can do, know what they need to do, but aren't sure if they can do it . . .
. . . please tune in. I’ll share, you can share, and together we’ll
work ourselves back and make the numbers start going in the right directions
again. And in my sharing, I’ll try to
remember that I’m one of you. Actually,
I’ve always been one of you.
Larry First topic: Trikes and Losing Weight
Edited by Larry K on 17 August 2009 at 6:11am
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kevinh Groupie

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Larry, I applaud you for sharing your personal situation with us. Getting on with life when dealing with "infirmaries" (I really dislike that word, but it works!) is never easy, but it I believe it is a fact and foundation of living.
That being said, I am one of those folks who really needs to push a little harder. Visiting the doctor for me is a recurring theme: Lose weight. I'm short and stocky, was a wrestler in High School and a weight lifter off and on most of my life. I started cycling as an adult at the age of 30. I had already started having back problems but was still young enough and strong enough to put in the effort and just get better at it. Until several years ago when I hurt my back at the start of three separate outings. That's when I decided to go recumbent. Best fitness choice I've ever made next to riding in general. Two years ago I found that even two wheeled bents were difficult so I bought my first trike. I would not like to take away from anyone's fun, but now I kind of think everyone should just start with a bent trike and pass up all the pain and expense getting there. 
Last December I blew my back out again and spent the next two months off my feet, unable to stand up straight. I don't recommend it as a vacation! I've been through different therapies and while still and permanently "uncomfortable" I am trying to get back to something more than just getting by.
I've gone back to work, been working on losing the weight, walking more as I can (can't sit too long so getting up and moving is essential), been working on my stretching and some light recumbent stationary work and hopefully will start doing some light weight training. I still haven't taken the trike out yet, but it's foremost on my mind.
Larry, as I read your posts I re-realize that the key to survival is doing what we love, like you riding with your wife, however much you can. My wife doesn't ride, but she knows how much I enjoy it, so with her support I will get back to it.
Look forward to the next topic. K
Edited by kevinh on 23 August 2009 at 1:27pm
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Larry K Admin Group

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Thanks for the encouragement, Kevin: you already picked up that this is not to be "read only" topic: discussion is welcome here!
Trikes and Losing Weight:
A number of riders have written in this summer asking how effective a recumbent trike can be in a weight reduction program. In addition, we have a number of Forum members who also have this concern. From time to time they write and share their triumphs and their setbacks.
The answer to whether a trike can help a person lose significant amounts of weight is yes, as I said previously. I have instrumentation on my trike that measures calories burned as I ride, and I average 1000 calories on a 20-mile ride. But you can't take this as a promise: there are some variables with figures like this that you need to know about:
-- Calories burned depends on weight propelled down the road. I weigh 145* and the trike weighs about 40, so that makes 185 pounds that my body is moving. If you weigh 200 pounds and ride the same trike over the same terrain at the same speed, you will almost certainly burn up more calories per mile; 300 pounds, even more per mile.
It's tempting to read that and say, "Great! The more I weigh, the more I lose!" It's good logic, but realize that if you're just starting out on a brand-new trike and you weigh 300 pounds, it will take you a little time before you're knocking off a 20-mile ride on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong: you should probably still shoot for the goal, but remind yourself that, like any other goal, it has to be achieved over the course of time. It needs a good, common-sensical plan, and above all, it needs consistency of application. Let's talk about this.
-- Calories burned in a weight-reduction program are easier if done in several smaller rides than in one long ride. A 20-mile ride (for example) done with my wife on a nice Saturday is very enjoyable, but if we had the choice of three 7-mile rides spread out through the week or one 20-mile ride on one day, we'd take the 7-milers. For us a 7-mile ride feels just as good, is easier to fit into the schedule, and brightens up more days than one 20-miler. (Actually, in previous years we did both, but in this year of forced choices for medical reasons, we opt for the shorter ones when we can.)
So should you, in my non-medical opinion. First, you want to enjoy the trike as many times as possible in a week (or month, etc.). Second, and more importantly, the more you weigh the more stressful -- and the more dangerous -- a long ride is on your body. When beginning an exercise program with any equipment, many small bites are better than one huge one.
-- As we all know, exercising with a goal in mind can start out as fun, but quickly turn to work and drudgery when combined with the ordinary problems of the everyday world: scheduling conflicts, muscular soreness, the rigmarole of getting ready beforehand / cleaning up afterwards, etc.
A few years back I had a membership in a fantastic gym. It had everything I could have wished for in equipment, plus a masseur, a sauna, and even a chiropractor. Good things happened for me when I went, but I made it over there only once in a while. No matter how I looked at it, exercising was work.
Let's face it: if exercising were fun, all of us would have done it long before now because we would have prioritized it above all those "important and practical" things.
Well, that's of the biggest advantages of doing your calorie-burning on a trike: as this Forum will attest, trikes are just plain ol' fun!! In an ordinary day, just the feeling of getting out on the road and watching pavement pass under my pedalling feet is incentive enough to drop something else and go for a ride instead. It feels great, both in the body and in the mind!
So, here's my first thought on triking / medical problems / weight. If you have concluded that you have a problem, and if you are looking for a practical, fun way to tone up some muscles, burn up some calories, and do it with a smile on your face, yes, you should consider triking.
Next: Which trike, what equipment, and how to buy.
All the best,
Larry
* For you new riders, don't look at my 145 pounds with envy: Forum members who have been around for a while know that I'm underweight for some serious medical reasons that you don't want or need. When you see my weight mentioned in one of our topics, just remind yourself that we're all different, we all bring our own health problems to the road when we ride our trikes. We're all in the same boat, trying to get to a better state of health than we have.
Edited by Larry K on 24 September 2009 at 1:59pm
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cathy w Newbie


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Larry- Forgive me if this is repetative, I am new and found your posting first and hope you can answer some newbie, or maybe wannabe questions. Short version: 53 yrs old, female, MS for 10+ yrs. Up until jan 09 was using an electric scooter to get around and run the shepherd. In Jan bought a trike, old person kind and experienced freedom and left the "I am handicapped" electric cart behind! I am long legged, so my seat height is 33 in, I have dumped it a few times, nothing serious, but close! So now I have got my heart set on a Greenspped anura. I have one concern that I hope you, your wife or others can help me with...I have concerns about my feet slipping off the pedals at the angle of a recumbent. I do not really care for the Idea of special shoes, or straps. Do they make a heel "cup" to just rest the foot in on the peddles? Thank You!!
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Larry K Admin Group

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Thanks for jumping in with the question, Cathy, and I'm glad to see you've generated a discussion on pedals right away.
I'm taking the information to a new topic called "To Clip or Not To Clip" because it's an important issue and deserves its own title. Then I'll continue here with the general health-related stuff I began with. The desired outcome is that I'll generate a couple more new topics just like this one.
Larry K
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Larry K Admin Group

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Which Trike, What Equipment, and How to Buy (I):
By far the most commonly-asked question in this Forum by new riders, or by those considering becoming new riders, is -- Tadpole or Delta? I get the feeling everyone wants us to say, "Tadpole, of course! Don't even think about it!"
I'm sure this is because tadpoles don't look like anything else in the universe, while deltas sort of look like recumbent bikes with an additional wheel. Tadpoles are edgy, deltas not quite so much. With trikes, though, as with dates, true beauty is more than skin deep, and true compatibility with the rider depends on both trike and rider. We buy our trikes partially because of the "Gee Whiz!" factor, but the smartest of us consider other factors as well. Those of us with health problems need to emphasize the other factors in the buying process.
A lot of new members tell us that the deciding factor will be price, and this is fine: we do live in the real world, after all. But with riders with health issues, it's possible to be penny wise and dollar foolish. If you intend to spend no more than $1500, for example, but if the only trike that really addresses your needs costs $1750, are you going to pass it by?
The next additions will contain what I think you should think of before you think of money. I'll have comments on:
-- Weight on the trike, considered in light of where and how the trike is to be used.
-- Mounting, dismounting, and control issues.
-- Riding alone vs. riding accompanied.
-- Other topics that Forum members may raise when they read this topic.
All the best,
Larry
Edited by Larry K on 24 September 2009 at 6:07pm
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Blind Triker Newbie

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This is a great topic, and can only serve to help many out there who are in need of direction and encouragement.
I am also disabled, 53 and retired from law enforcement in NYC. I have also served in the military (US Army & US Coast Guard), and feel that I am somewhat "hardcore", as well. I like to believe that I am some sort of "lay ambassador" for recumbent cycling, particularly for trikes. In my travels it has been my pleasure to answer questions and give advice to those who believe it was otherwise impossible to ride a bike or trike.
My particular disability is blindness (80% vision loss), but I am also an insulin dependent diabetic and have other medical issues. I am incredibly lucky to have found recumbents and recumbent trikes. I want to share this joy with others who are facing similar challenges.
It seems to me that the greatest single thing going for the recumbent trike world is the trike community, and the fact that we are always pleased talking to people about recumbents, and all that recumbents can add to your life (and there is much!). I love the fact that on a recumbent trike people regard you as totally approachable, and are willing to discuss their own needs and personal challenges with you. I have had the pleasure of meeting many wonderful people in this manner, and I know that many have gone on to own recumbent trikes, as well. Those people have then gone forth to assist others in their respective quests.
One must accept that (to a large extent) how one deals with physical disability is largely a function of character and desire. We must all have known someone who simply threw in the towel when they became physically challenged. Others choose to continue living as they did, and view their disability more as an opportunity. These are the people who will seek out opportunity (as they will find in recumbents) and live their lives to the fullest.
There's an old hackneyed expression that says, "When life throws lemons at you, make lemonade". Hokey, but so true. Attitude is everything, and even when you're down pure will inspires you to get back up. I can read between the lines in Larry's original posting, and see that this intestinal issue has knocked him down. I know Larry is not down for the count, just as countless others will gather up their grit and get on with it. In some ways it's a function of aging, and in some ways I suppose we just play the cards we're dealt. No biggie.
Stephen Hawking endured the most severe of physical adversity, but never gave up. He created a full & satisfying life, where he contributed to the world without bitterness or resentment. Some folks will stay at home, sulk, pity themselves and die. Others will fight to enjoy every precious second, and not give up on themselves.
Even with the Catskill's incredibly poor, erratic weather I know that if I can squeak one more day of trike riding in I'll know that joy all over again.
Larry, I hope you get well soon. You sound like a great guy, and a tough nut. Keep the faith, and you'll be out there soon. Be well.
--Mark
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Although I have never met any of you and probably never will, I want you to know that I'm proud of you. Many of you have refused to give up and be a victim of sircumstance. Unless you include a broken heart, I have no medical reason that inspired me to ride a trike. In the past , I was married , and some of the best times I shared with my wife were our bike trips through Alberta and British Columbia. I found out that she had been "unfaithful" and when confronted, she chose to end the relationship instead of trying to work things out. After the divorce, I would have tremendous emotional breakdowns every time I climbed on a bike and rode for a bit. For a year, I gave up riding alltogether which only hurt me further. One day I was on youtube and stumbled on a video of a trike rider from California and my heart cried out for that feeling of freedom that only riding can provide. I had very little money after the seperation so I had to get a part time job for two months in which time I did extensive research into what qualities I wanted from this beautiful machine.
1) It had to be solidly built
2)It had to be comfortable and adjustable
3) It had to be upgradeable
4) It had to be under $2000 US as I live in Canada and the freight would be pricey ( It was )
In the end, I settled on a Terra Trike Path Plus . Only had it for 5 months now, and I've already put 1200 KM . Now I'm looking at getting my second trike now that I know what I do and don't like about my trike
1) More gears !! ( I'd love to have a Schlumph HSD but I'm not sure if I can justify the cost )
2) 26" rear tire ( Just to try it )
3) Narrower wheel base
Basically I want a higher performance machine .... Any recomendations ?
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Hi RadiationKing, Welcome to this international site of fun. Delighted to hear thart you have enjoyed your triking so much. Must admit I had to look up the terra trike site to see what you ride as not seen one this side of the pond. Path plus, does that indicate the eight speed version? I started out on a Greenspeed GTO about nine years ago and still use it several times a week for shopping and general getting about. It has three hub gears and eight cogs on the back plus a mountain drive on the front. I also tow a trailer for heavy shopping or taking kids out. My other machine in regular use is my Winchetta which was purchased of Ebay. Much narrower, lighter, and with a 26'' rear wheel. Nine cogs on the back and triple chain wheel up front. Totally different ride as has single cloumb steering and even with a 64 year old onboard goes like a rocket. Which do I prefer, well wouldn't change either one so there is a possible problem for you. Are you after another or a different trike? I imagine if you want to upgrade your present trike you might be able to fit a three speed chain set on the front to give you a greater gear range. If you want another trike look out on the likes of Ebay, they don't come up too often but they do appear. Note of caution, unlike Larry I am not held back by health problems but did lose a stone in weight last year, doctor could only put it down to too much triking too hard but the grin was worth it. Enjoy your triking.
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altozwei Senior Member

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RadiationKing,
Once you decide on a particular trike, you should consider getting a
good, used trike to reduce the cost. As towtug has suggested, ebay can
be a place to look for trikes, both new and used. BROL (bent rider online)
often has listings for used trikes. So does the Catrike Forum. Hostel
Shoppe, Recumbents.com and Craigslist also are good places to look.
Even some of the smaller forums such as Recumbent Riders International
and Recumbent Riders Social Club have classified listings. Take your time
and do your homework. Learn everything you can about the different
trikes available and keep watching the ads. If there is something you
particularly want, place ads in some of the places above stating what you
want and how much you would be willing to pay. I just purchased a used
Catrike Pocket in excellent condition for $4000 less than I would have
paid for a new one. Good deals are out there. It just takes patience and
persistence.
__________________ Patti
It may be that your only purpose in life is to serve as an example to others...
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