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pfdavis Newbie

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Well, after riding a borrowed TT for a few months last year, I'm ready to buy my own. I'm in the Boston area, and would like something I can ride as much of the year as possible ... in other words, in all but heavy snow.
I've thought about getting a delta with 2-wheel drive (e.g., Greenspeed Anura) for the traction, but I think I'm settling on a TerraTrike Cruiser with the 26" rear wheel upgrade. That will allow me to put mountain bike tires, or even studded snow tires, on the rear drive wheel.
I'm also going to get fenders, since the trike I had borrowed last year got me well sprayed with mud a couple of times.
Cheers, -pd
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digitalmouse Senior Member


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Both choices of trike will do just find in the Boston area (I used to live just over the border in NH, so I recall the terrain and weather).
Don't worry about the rear-wheel upgrade, in my opinion. There are MTB tires and studded tires for 20" wheels - the later made by Schwalbe (more famous for their puncture-resistant tires) and possibly other vendors.
Small rear tire has several advantages, such as simplifying your tire/tube supplies (only need one size for all wheels), better side-load strength for cornering with weight on the back, and lower center of gravity when carrying weight because you can mount a rack and/or bags lower.
For weather protection, you have a few possibilities:
The VeloKit (http://velokit.com) has a fold-able body kit:

And over here in Denmark we have the WildCat fairing from Leitra (http://leitra.dk):

both of which should fit your choice of trike. Not shown in the Wildcat images above is a rear and side fairing "add-on", currently in development.
So you do have the potential of riding all-year-around! :)
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pfdavis Newbie

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Thanks, digitalmouse. I consider your suggestions re/ the rear wheel upgrade. The other potential advantage of a smaller wheel is effectively lower gearing, which might be better on ice.
Most of my rides are on relatively flat ground, but I have one fairly steep (15% grade) hill to climb to get home, so I'm concerned about doing that in snowy or icy conditions. I don't know if there's any solution to that, other than getting off and walking. (In which case, the delta with its higher seat may be an advantage.)
I'm not really considering fairings at this point. I figured I'd just bundle up wear ski goggles. Fenders are a must, though.
Thanks! -pd
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pfdavis Newbie

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Well, I decided to go for the 26" rear wheel anyway. The main argument was that TerraTrike offers a 26 tooth chain ring as an option, meaning that I could still get the lower "granny" gears, while extending the range at the high end. The side load argument was the strongest reason I'd heard to *not* get the 26" wheel, but I'm mostly on bike paths, not doing lots of cornering and sharp turns. As for carrying an extra inner tube, that's no biggie.
So I ordered my TerraTrike Cruiser this morning. Can't wait!
Thanks! -pd
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pfdavis Newbie

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Got my TT Cruiser the other day. Yow! I love it. I still have to mount the fenders, but I've taken a couple of short test rides, and I'm absolutely thrilled.
Unfortunately, in the Boston area, the streets are all slush and packed snow/ice at the moment, but I'm hoping that'll clear up over the next few days.
Now my next challenge is to figure out how to fit this in an already crowded 1-car garage.
-pd
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myksav Senior Member

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pfdavis wrote:
Got my TT Cruiser the other day. Yow! I love it. I still have to mount the fenders, but I've taken a couple of short test rides, and I'm absolutely thrilled.
Unfortunately, in the Boston area, the streets are all slush and packed snow/ice at the moment, but I'm hoping that'll clear up over the next few days.
Now my next challenge is to figure out how to fit this in an already crowded 1-car garage.
-pd
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Congratulations. You're doomed, doomed I tells ya. 
The garage challenge is a simple one, park the trike inside and the car outside. 
Happy triking,
Mike Savage
South West Cork
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pfdavis Newbie

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myksav wrote:
The garage challenge is a simple one, park the trike inside and the car outside. 
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That's what we're doing for now, but the wife's not too happy with it ... especially with the snow and ice.
If I'm not careful. I may be sleeping in the garage!
-pd
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digitalmouse Senior Member


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if you can modify the garage, consider mounting some good hooks on one
wall to 'hang' the trike upright from it's front fork, or from the ceiling by the
front rims. should save you enough space to get the car inside too!
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pfdavis Newbie

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digitalmouse wrote:
if you can modify the garage, consider mounting some good hooks on one
wall to 'hang' the trike upright from it's front fork, or from the ceiling by the
front rims. should save you enough space to get the car inside too! |
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Thanks, DM. I have put up a hook to hang it from the cross bars, and that works, though it's a bit tighter fit than I would like. I may try another hook to hang it by the rear wheel (as recommended by TerraTrike). That would put the seat back and larger wheel higher up on the wall, further from the car. Unfortunately, though, it would be more difficult to hang up and take down the trike then.
In any case, it's workable now, and the trike is a blast. We've had sub-freezing temps here in the Boston area for a few days now, but I'm still trying to get out and ride a bit when I can.
Cheers, -pd
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jimbeau Newbie

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Hi, I bought a sun ez-3 trike a year ago...now have added an electric hub motor on front wheel just for hills. I enjoy riding all year round except the heavy snow...I also live in Massachusetts, but do ride as soon as the roads are clear. People around town know me well! Everyone stops me and asks...what is that thing you are riding!...lol!
I use my trike for fun and also transportation when possible as I cannot drive a car anymore due to my vertigo...and i am still only 53years old. I have a friend that is partially paralyzed, and he has a catrike and is able to ride with me sometimes, mostly in the spring and summer!
Hope to hear from you all soon! Jim
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pfdavis Newbie

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Good to hear from you, Jim! Where in Mass. are you? I'm pretty near Boston and Cambridge. My main ride is the Minuteman Bike Path. I'm lucky to live within a couple of blocks of it. The Eastern end of it is pretty well plowed, and the middle stretch somewhat plowed. I've ridden of long stretches of ice on the path and, except for a little skidding, have had no problems. I certainly don't worry about falling down like I did on a diamond frame bike.
Cheers, -pd
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digitalmouse Senior Member


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pfdavis wrote:
| We've had sub-freezing temps here in the Boston area for a few days now, but I'm still trying to get out and ride a bit when I can. |
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Here in Denmark, we've had snow and sub-zero temperatures for about 2 months - hasn't stopped me (nor the die-hard 200,000+ Copenhagen cyclists) at all from riding to-and-from work or grocery shopping on a daily basis. Having a trike in this weather is quite handy - little worry about falling over due to icy roads.
Just have to bundle up smart! Sweats and long underwear for the legs, t-shirt and medium jacket for the top, gloves and hat that covers the ears. For work I just wear a pair of black baggy jeans.
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jimbeau Newbie

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Hi PFDavis and Digitalmouse:
I am located just west of Gardner, MA...central western massachusetts. We did not get the big storm yesterday, so I will have my trike out today even though the temperatures may be cold. I need to get to a few shops as Valentines Day is on Sunday!!!
Denmark sounds so cold...brrrr....but you are brave to head out into the frigid cold. I also dress the part, and wear sunglasses or googles to cut down the wind in my eyes. Our temps. don't get quite as cold as yours, but we do get the winds.
What lubricant do you both use for your chain and gears...I found that my chain is dry and do not want to use oil as I was told it is not the answer?
My gears also have tightened up in the cold...so I am not sure what to do about that either?
Any Help would be appreciated. Thanks! Jim
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pfdavis Newbie

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jimbeau wrote:
What lubricant do you both use for your chain and gears...I found that my chain is dry and do not want to use oil as I was told it is not the answer?
My gears also have tightened up in the cold...so I am not sure what to do about that either?
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I'll confess that I haven't really taken any particular steps to deal with the cold as far as lubricating the chain or anything. However, I would highly recommend the site http://www.icebike.com, which has tons of information. It's mostly for bicyclists, but the maintenance, equipment and clothing suggestions apply to 'bent trikes as well.
-pd
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jimbeau Newbie

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I'll confess that I haven't really taken any particular steps to deal with the cold as far as lubricating the chain or anything. However, I would highly recommend the site http://www.icebike.com, which has tons of information. It's mostly for bicyclists, but the maintenance, equipment and clothing suggestions apply to 'bent trikes as well.
-pd
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I find that I lube with light oil for now, but probably not such a great idea. I went triking today...did about 5 miles, but it was so windy...we only have about an inch of snow on the ground out here.
I know that the coastal areas got hit with that storm yesterday...but we lucked out once again.!
Jim
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jimbeau Newbie

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how do you use the quote thingy here...guess I messed that up on my above post...ooops... sorry about that. Jim
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myksav Senior Member

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jimbeau wrote:
Hi PFDavis and Digitalmouse:
I am located just west of Gardner, MA...central western massachusetts. We did not get the big storm yesterday, so I will have my trike out today even though the temperatures may be cold. I need to get to a few shops as Valentines Day is on Sunday!!!
Denmark sounds so cold...brrrr....but you are brave to head out into the frigid cold. I also dress the part, and wear sunglasses or googles to cut down the wind in my eyes. Our temps. don't get quite as cold as yours, but we do get the winds.
What lubricant do you both use for your chain and gears...I found that my chain is dry and do not want to use oil as I was told it is not the answer?
My gears also have tightened up in the cold...so I am not sure what to do about that either?
Any Help would be appreciated. Thanks! Jim
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Hi Jim, oiling the chain isn't something not to do, at least for bicycle/trike derailleur chains as there are no seals as there are with motorbike chains nowadays. I usually oil the chain by removing it from the trike and soaking it in fresh, warmed oil, hang the chain and let the excess drip off before replacing. (getting things backwards) I clean the old oil off before oiling afresh. It's not so much lack of lubrication that kills chains as dirt/grit they collect in use. Cleaning and oiling gets rid of the grit.
Wipe the gear mechs clean and lightly oil the hinge points on the them. Keeps them working smoothly. Cables, I use light grease on the cable before putting then in their outer sheaths. The gears will tighten up in winter compared to summer as the cables shrink in the cold, some mechs have adjusters, just back them off a small bit until things line up right. (don't do what I did, forget to re-adjust in summer, couldn't figure what was wrong. )
Mike Savage
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pfdavis Newbie

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myksav wrote:
oiling the chain isn't something not to do,
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I think you're saying that oiling the chain is something to do, right?
That's certainly true. My trike is only a couple of weeks old, and has less than 100 miles on it. That's why I haven't done any serious chain maintenance.
jimbeau wrote:
how do you use the quote thingy here...guess I messed that up on my above post...ooops...
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No apologies necessary. There should be a "Quote" button in each reply on the Web page, so you can quote that reply in replying to it. That should set it up for you. In general it begins with QUOTE=soandso inside [ and ], and ends with /QUOTE, also inside [ and ].
In other news, one of the recumbent blogs I follow had a post about a bike stand converted for use with a trike, and a link to the product on Amazon. It was only $50, so I figured I'd give it a try. I haven't received it yet, but I'll report back when I do. The product is here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000077CPK/ref=oss_product
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Greetings.
This is my first post as I just signed up for this site. I have been looking at recumbent trikes for the last few days and I am thinking about getting one. Last weekend, my wife and I drove out to a small bicycle shop in Turner falls to look at a few. The weather was not so good, and it was near closing, but I did get to look at a couple. Reading this thread, I noticed that some of you are in the Boston Area. Is there a closer shop that has trikes ? On the specific topic of all weather trikes, how necessary are fenders on these things ?
Thanks.
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myksav Senior Member

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Hi newguy, I don't think a fairing is actually necessary as such, but could be very helpful in certain weathers. Good base layers, mid layers and wind/waterproof outers can let you trike in almost any weather, it depends on your tolerance for yuck. I've triked in sub-zero C weather, particularly this winter, without a fairing, it just needs a bit of thinking. One thing I feel is vital in cold weather triking, eye protection. Cold wind on the eyeballs makes them leak.
Mudguards, front and rear are a good idea, it keeps the most of road yuck off.
One thing about trikes and fairings, you don't have to get a fairing right away, the trike will work perfectly without one and if you want one later, it's fairly easy to fit one.
Mike Savage
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pfdavis Newbie

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newguy wrote:
This is my first post as I just signed up for this site. I have been looking at recumbent trikes for the last few days and I am thinking about getting one. Last weekend, my wife and I drove out to a small bicycle shop in Turner falls to look at a few. The weather was not so good, and it was near closing, but I did get to look at a couple. Reading this thread, I noticed that some of you are in the Boston Area. Is there a closer shop that has trikes ? On the specific topic of all weather trikes, how necessary are fenders on these things ?
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Hi, Newguy. The closest place to Boston I could find is Wildfire HPV (http://www.velomobiles.net/wildfire/index.htm) in Arundel, Maine. They seem to stock a lot of brands and models. However, I confess I never actually made it there. I had borrowed an old TerraTrike from some neighbors for a few months, and got so hooked on that I wound up buying another TerraTrike.
I did get fenders after several very muddy rides, but no fairing. The fairings I've seen look pretty clumsy. At some point maybe I'll save up for a full-blown velomobile, but that's another story.
-pd
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jimbeau Newbie

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Hi PFDavis, I am riding now and was able to ride in January, and Feb...and now March. I also need to get a front fender for the 16 inch tire...seems like I get all sorts of road splash on me. I have cleaned the chain a few times already and it still gets gunked up after almost everyride. I actually use some cloths and clean it up after every ride. I enjoy riding whenever I can.
I won't get a fairing, they do add weight, but still must be nice cutting the lousy cold weather off of you. I do have the electric motor in the front hub, and it really can zip along there...and gets about 20miles per charge without pedaling...but I do pedal..that is the whole idea...to get exercise.. I am going riding tomorrow morning..Saturday. take care, Jim
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jimbeau Newbie

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Hi Mike, Thanks for the great advice about the chain maintenance. I have cleaned it as you mentioned, but not before I got oil all over my favorite pair of new jeans...lol....
Oh well...lesson learned. We are finally past all of the snow and lousy weather, other than a bit of rain lately. I do need to get a front tire fender at the least...I am tired of the rooster tail spray of puddles that get me in the face. Well...I will order the new fender tomorrow... Thanks, Jim
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